https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ezra-klein-show/id1548604447?i=1000604814130
Demis Hassabis: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/11/opinion/ezra-klein-podcast-demis-hassabis.html
"I think that eventually, from a certain vantage point, the values of our current society are going to look incredibly sick.
"This is a quite good time for more radical politics, to think about more radical political ideas."
-Ezra Klein, 4/7/23
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